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Paulusworm
Hognose Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  11:34:20  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
As the title says. Would a ceramic heat-lamp be better than a heatmat for Madagascan species?

0.0.1 Royal Python, 1.0.0 Dumeril's Boa
0.0.1 Bosc's Monitor, 1.4.1 Phyllium phillipines
0.1.0 Malagasy Blonde Hognose

Gingerpony
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United Kingdom
117 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2009 :  20:57:44  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
depends which Madagascan species you're on about....... the giant hoggies then yes, as they are heavier-bodied

6.4.0 Corn snakes www.thecornsnake.co.uk
2.1.0 Dumerils boas
0.1.0 Argentine x BCI err... www.therainbowboa.co.uk
www.theroyalpython.co.uk
www.thekingsnake.co.uk
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Paulusworm
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United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2009 :  21:18:17  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

depends which Madagascan species you're on about....... the giant hoggies then yes, as they are heavier-bodied



I'm looking at breeding from a pair of wc blondes.

0.0.1 Royal Python, 1.0.0 Dumeril's Boa
0.0.1 Bosc's Monitor, 1.4.1 Phyllium phillipines
0.1.0 Malagasy Blonde Hognose
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Gingerpony
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United Kingdom
117 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2009 :  22:35:12  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
really?? can i buy one at mates rates if you do

6.4.0 Corn snakes www.thecornsnake.co.uk
2.1.0 Dumerils boas
0.1.0 Argentine x BCI err... www.therainbowboa.co.uk
www.theroyalpython.co.uk
www.thekingsnake.co.uk
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Paulusworm
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United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2009 :  08:40:32  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's a way off yet but I should be able to sort something out for you Ali .

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0.0.1 Bosc's Monitor, 1.4.1 Phyllium phillipines
0.1.0 Malagasy Blonde Hognose
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Kazerella
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United Kingdom
746 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2009 :  16:28:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A ceramic should be fine. I think they heat vivs better anyway. Would love to afford one for every viv I've got

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Bigdave
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/09/2009 :  23:00:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
using a ceramic for my blonde and he seems to have settled in fine.
Where did you manage to find a female from, Ive seen a few males but females are like the proverbial rocking horse pooh

Western Hognose 5.8.1
Tri colour hognose 1.2.0
Blonde Madagascan Hognose 1.1.0
Giant Madagascan Hognose 0.1.0
Bull 1.1.0
Common Boa 1.1.0
Royal Python 1.1.1
Corns Butter1.1 Snow Sripe 0.1 Caramel 4.1
Abbots 0.1 Anery Aztec 0.1.0 Lavender stripe 0.0.1 Stripe Corn 0.2
Amel stripe 1.0 Crimson 1.0 Normal 4.4.0 Charcoal 0.1.0 Ghost 0.3
Bloodred 0.1 Snow 1.2
Hypo 0.1


3.7.0 leopard gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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Kazerella
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United Kingdom
746 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2009 :  18:44:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think he's actually found one yet- he's on the look out though

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Bigdave
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
46 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2009 :  14:06:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I don't think he's actually found one yet- he's on the look out though

dooh me being dumb
as a further note although the blonds are quite a slender snake I had read on Hognose.com about them doing better when the can burrow. So I have used quite a thick bed of aspen and I rarely see him, hes either burrowing or I also keep a box of moist moss in permenently and hes often in there.

I would worry about a heat mat in this set up as there would be a potential for thermal blocking leading to a fire hazard ie heat could not dissipate and theoretically could heat the aspen to ignition point. Also as he burrows so much would there be a potential for contact burns ?
I suspect the ceramic is the safer option on all fronts

Western Hognose 5.8.1
Tri colour hognose 1.2.0
Blonde Madagascan Hognose 1.1.0
Giant Madagascan Hognose 0.1.0
Bull 1.1.0
Common Boa 1.1.0
Royal Python 1.1.1
Corns Butter1.1 Snow Sripe 0.1 Caramel 4.1
Abbots 0.1 Anery Aztec 0.1.0 Lavender stripe 0.0.1 Stripe Corn 0.2
Amel stripe 1.0 Crimson 1.0 Normal 4.4.0 Charcoal 0.1.0 Ghost 0.3
Bloodred 0.1 Snow 1.2
Hypo 0.1


3.7.0 leopard gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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Paulusworm
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United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2009 :  09:17:38  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yep. Not got them yet but I do have a few people making enquiries about importing them for me. It is all very much in the planning stages at the moment but I hope to be able to get some cb specimens onto the uk market and then, hopefully, the wild ones will be able to stay in Madagascar where they belong. Getting the money together to get things started is the main problem at the moment .

0.0.1 Royal Python, 1.0.0 Dumeril's Boa
0.0.1 Bosc's Monitor, 1.4.1 Phyllium phillipines
0.1.0 Malagasy Blonde Hognose
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Gingerpony
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United Kingdom
117 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2009 :  20:46:52  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
are the hoggies not covered by CITES appendix 1 like the Dumerils are?

6.4.0 Corn snakes www.thecornsnake.co.uk
2.1.0 Dumerils boas
0.1.0 Argentine x BCI err... www.therainbowboa.co.uk
www.theroyalpython.co.uk
www.thekingsnake.co.uk
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Paulusworm
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United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 21/09/2009 :  19:38:50  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gingerpony

are the hoggies not covered by CITES appendix 1 like the Dumerils are?



Not sure yet. That's on my "to do" list. The bosc viv build is taking up most of my free time at the moment .

0.0.1 Royal Python, 1.0.0 Dumeril's Boa
0.0.1 Bosc's Monitor, 1.4.1 Phyllium phillipines
0.1.0 Malagasy Blonde Hognose
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Paulusworm
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United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 21/09/2009 :  19:55:44  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bigdave

as a further note although the blonds are quite a slender snake I had read on Hognose.com about them doing better when the can burrow. So I have used quite a thick bed of aspen.........


Have you tried a sand/soil/orchid bark mix Dave? I use a similar thing for my monitor and it holds a burrow quite nicely.

0.0.1 Royal Python, 1.0.0 Dumeril's Boa
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Bigdave
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
46 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2009 :  19:06:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Have you tried a sand/soil/orchid bark mix Dave? I use a similar thing for my monitor and it holds a burrow quite nicely.

never heard of a mix like that but always willing to try, thats what I like about forums always learning.
I may be wrong but I dont think that the blondes are cites
some of the boids from Madagascar and several lizards are though and things do get added to it

Western Hognose 5.8.1
Tri colour hognose 1.2.0
Blonde Madagascan Hognose 1.1.0
Giant Madagascan Hognose 0.1.0
Bull 1.1.0
Common Boa 1.1.0
Royal Python 1.1.1
Corns Butter1.1 Snow Sripe 0.1 Caramel 4.1
Abbots 0.1 Anery Aztec 0.1.0 Lavender stripe 0.0.1 Stripe Corn 0.2
Amel stripe 1.0 Crimson 1.0 Normal 4.4.0 Charcoal 0.1.0 Ghost 0.3
Bloodred 0.1 Snow 1.2
Hypo 0.1


3.7.0 leopard gecko
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon
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