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Toki
Hatchling Hoggie
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
 Posted - 22/01/2012 : 18:17:13
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Hey all,
Freddie's got this weird gap on his belly.
He had this when we had him and it sealed fine - I took some photos of when he was tiny and it just looked like a small indent. Since then it looked like a small scar, the scales looks a bit indented.
We just noticed today it's sort of opened up. There's no fluid and it doesn't seem to be bothering him and he's eating fine, doesn't mind me touching it and having a look .... but it's definitely not normal! It looks like an odd sort of hernia???
Any idea what it is? (Pics below)
Vet time?
I thought I should also mention that Mia, our albino hog, had similar on her belly when she was younger. She's fine though.
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Albino Cali King - Mort
Normal Cornsnake - Red
High Contrast Albino Hognose - Mia
Red Het Hognose - Freddie
Bearded Dragon - Remi
Cats - Jack and Nola
German Shepherd Dog - Kane. R.I.P. Old man, miss you loads xxx
R.I.P. Jango (Yemem Cham) and Toki (Western Hognose) xxxxx
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Gmac
Grumpy Scotsman
United Kingdom
155 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2012 : 01:44:49
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| looks like where the umbilcal chord was attached, would keep dry and on a suitable substrate like kitchen roll nothing thet could rritate it like aspen or anything similar. If it has sealed before this may turn out to be a recurring issue therefore suggest going to a rep vet and get it sorted. |
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Toki
Hatchling Hoggie
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2012 : 08:53:31
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Thank you.
I'll change him to kitchen roll tonight and watch him over the next week. |
Albino Cali King - Mort
Normal Cornsnake - Red
High Contrast Albino Hognose - Mia
Red Het Hognose - Freddie
Bearded Dragon - Remi
Cats - Jack and Nola
German Shepherd Dog - Kane. R.I.P. Old man, miss you loads xxx
R.I.P. Jango (Yemem Cham) and Toki (Western Hognose) xxxxx
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Toki
Hatchling Hoggie
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2012 : 09:15:53
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| Poor little mites going the vet later, no improvement. |
Albino Cali King - Mort
Normal Cornsnake - Red
High Contrast Albino Hognose - Mia
Red Het Hognose - Freddie
Bearded Dragon - Remi
Cats - Jack and Nola
German Shepherd Dog - Kane. R.I.P. Old man, miss you loads xxx
R.I.P. Jango (Yemem Cham) and Toki (Western Hognose) xxxxx
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LouiseB
Yearling Hoggie
United Kingdom
624 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2012 : 10:20:45
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Hope he gets fixed up OK 
It does definitely look like the umbilical has re-opened but I don't know why that might happen. Let us know what the vet says - I hope there's a simple solution either way. |
1.0.0. Western hognose (Baldrick)
0.1.0. Amel bloodred corn snake (Cornflake)
R.I.P. Bob (Western hognose) |
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Toki
Hatchling Hoggie
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2012 : 13:01:30
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Thank you.
I hope he's alright too. Fantastic little fella.
He hates having no aspen, really hates it. Constantly trying to burrow and looking really put out. Was sulking under some kitchen roll this morning and yesterday burrowing into my hand as we checked him over lol.
I have no idea what caused it, it's really strange.
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Albino Cali King - Mort
Normal Cornsnake - Red
High Contrast Albino Hognose - Mia
Red Het Hognose - Freddie
Bearded Dragon - Remi
Cats - Jack and Nola
German Shepherd Dog - Kane. R.I.P. Old man, miss you loads xxx
R.I.P. Jango (Yemem Cham) and Toki (Western Hognose) xxxxx
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kdlang
Hatchling Hoggie
United Kingdom
157 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2012 : 18:04:43
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How did you get on at the vets hun?
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1.1.0 Hognose - Mr Hoggie, Miss Piggy
5.4.0 Corns - Swayze (ghost) Izzy (normal) Alice (amel) Peanut (butter motley) Noisy (lavender) Palace (amel) Lizzy (Normal) Connie (normal) Carmellia (butter motley)
0.1.0 cat - kizzy
1.0.0 Foster Dog - Paddy
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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Toki
Hatchling Hoggie
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
Posted - 30/01/2012 : 21:21:51
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Hi all,
Little guy's got a hernia. 
Vet won't do anything at this stage, keep him as he is, temps high and on paper and see how he goes. He said this hernia's pretty tricky as his scales are sealed to it, usually they'd just glue the scales over as it's usually just a gap but the seal makes it not a good idea.
Keep his food small so back to two weeny pinkies instead of his large ones. He's gonna get annoyed lol.
No aspen for the little guy, he already looks bored! Gonna have to be creative and make lots of little hides for him I think.
Vet said it should heal over within a few weeks, and definatly improve on next shed.
If not then he'll have to go in and see what more they can do.
He seemed pretty confident that no irritating bedding etc would be the way forward.
He's a good vet, was fab with our beardie (we adopted her with a broken leg) and our cornsnake. |
Albino Cali King - Mort
Normal Cornsnake - Red
High Contrast Albino Hognose - Mia
Red Het Hognose - Freddie
Bearded Dragon - Remi
Cats - Jack and Nola
German Shepherd Dog - Kane. R.I.P. Old man, miss you loads xxx
R.I.P. Jango (Yemem Cham) and Toki (Western Hognose) xxxxx
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LouiseB
Yearling Hoggie
United Kingdom
624 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2012 : 12:04:58
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| A snake hernia - I can't say I've ever heard of that before. Did the vet say what might have caused it - is it a weakness in the muscle, or a big growth spurt, or something? One thing's for sure, it can't have been down to heavy lifting... |
1.0.0. Western hognose (Baldrick)
0.1.0. Amel bloodred corn snake (Cornflake)
R.I.P. Bob (Western hognose) |
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Toki
Hatchling Hoggie
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2012 : 13:28:32
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He's seen it before. He's south african, worked all over with lots of different species.
I was looking it up online and I can't find much about it to be honest which does make me second guess.
He examined him for ages and he seemed pretty sure that's what it was.
lol, I have an image of Freddie doing weight lift with hides how, just balancing it on his head.
I didn't ask for a cause and he didn't give one, just explained hwo to keep him comfy. If we take him back i'll ask more questions. The gap is closing ... slowly but it's getting better.
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Albino Cali King - Mort
Normal Cornsnake - Red
High Contrast Albino Hognose - Mia
Red Het Hognose - Freddie
Bearded Dragon - Remi
Cats - Jack and Nola
German Shepherd Dog - Kane. R.I.P. Old man, miss you loads xxx
R.I.P. Jango (Yemem Cham) and Toki (Western Hognose) xxxxx
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Toki
Hatchling Hoggie
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2012 : 13:30:00
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Say that ... I do remember him saying something about weak muscles.
Must have been a birth defect. |
Albino Cali King - Mort
Normal Cornsnake - Red
High Contrast Albino Hognose - Mia
Red Het Hognose - Freddie
Bearded Dragon - Remi
Cats - Jack and Nola
German Shepherd Dog - Kane. R.I.P. Old man, miss you loads xxx
R.I.P. Jango (Yemem Cham) and Toki (Western Hognose) xxxxx
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Toki
Hatchling Hoggie
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 13:23:28
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It's healing now, slowly but surely, there is some definite improvement :)
He's going to be on kitchen roll for a long long time as a substrate, which is a shame as he loves digging a lot.
Anyone have idea ideas as to what I can put in there when he's fully grown so it won't aggravate any weakness on his belly?
It should heal fine looking at it now, but if it ever opens again he'll be in serious trouble I think, so want to prevent it. |
Albino Cali King - Mort
Normal Cornsnake - Red
High Contrast Albino Hognose - Mia
Red Het Hognose - Freddie
Bearded Dragon - Remi
Cats - Jack and Nola
German Shepherd Dog - Kane. R.I.P. Old man, miss you loads xxx
R.I.P. Jango (Yemem Cham) and Toki (Western Hognose) xxxxx
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LouiseB
Yearling Hoggie
United Kingdom
624 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2012 : 11:14:15
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| I keep my snakes on a sort of pulped paper substrate, you can get it in Pets at Home, think it's called Carefresh. It is softer than aspen and it doesn't have any sharp bits in it, so it might be worth a try? |
1.0.0. Western hognose (Baldrick)
0.1.0. Amel bloodred corn snake (Cornflake)
R.I.P. Bob (Western hognose) |
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Toki
Hatchling Hoggie
United Kingdom
166 Posts |
Posted - 24/03/2012 : 13:10:43
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I will try that substrate, thanks :)
Little guys still on kitchen roll a at the minute.
His hernia's still there bit it's closed a little and has loads more layers of skin over it. Waiting for his next shed to see how he goes then back to the vet for a check up me thinks.
He's perfectly fine in himself, drinking eating fine, curious and active, in the mornings especially. |
Albino Cali King - Mort
Normal Cornsnake - Red
High Contrast Albino Hognose - Mia
Red Het Hognose - Freddie
Bearded Dragon - Remi
Cats - Jack and Nola
German Shepherd Dog - Kane. R.I.P. Old man, miss you loads xxx
R.I.P. Jango (Yemem Cham) and Toki (Western Hognose) xxxxx
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Weird open gap in scales in belly?
